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10 minutes ago, Mantosh said:
I spiced it up, yes
But what else could you mean by that when I'm the one behind the wheel (right now)? 
Adapting means adapting to the changes
I'd like to suggest to go back to the topic at hand. The most compelling points so far were
- New players entry "cost"
- 10+ dds assisting making it almost impossible to counter, so pvp become who can target/res faster
- Major change on live server
Poll seems to be too close to have a major impact in the decision. Another thing that someone mentioned and I've observed in the "PvP events" is that there hasn't been many cases where someone is handling more than one party right now. So even if we go down the road of changing the rule it will be more of a preventative measure.
from my experience and the reason for why i suggest this in the first place is to avoid people saying you have 20 you have 19 you have 3 half pt, and because a figth gets laggy no matter how good your PC is when there are 100 chars on the screen is madness and to try to control 2 pt in that madness is more madness, and personally i think 1 PT per human is the best, it gives room for strategy making, fast movement, not just zerging everithing, some people mistoook the suggestion as a QQ for losing some AQ and TW the weekend, it is as you said not everyone is using 20 toons in all content, so making it only 9 will help keep it safe and symple in the future, i appreciate that you are taking this suggestion and making the best of it, what ever decision you take i will accept without complaints.
best regards
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1 hour ago, Erebus said:
Lets say that both options have their ups and downs and w/e arguement all can bring on the table it can't change the fact that ITEMS HAVE ALREADY BEEN OBTAINED WITH 18 LIMIT.
If you can reset that then you can change the rule, until you "can't" reset that you are "NOT ALLOWED" to change features in a 2 month live server.
P.S. Don't start with Admin can do anything he wants bla bla bla, Mantosh knows what I mean ( I hope )!!!
P.P.S. If "and I feel like I have to make it bigger for some" IF a poll about any subject results are something like 90% vs 10% then Admin should think about how much it will change the game and apply the changes. Any other behaviour on a live server brings in mind homemade servers of 16 years old that wanna have fun.
Let me ask you this, IF you are talking about items obtained with a 18 man limit, in my case i dont use more than 5 not even for AQ my AQ party consist of 6 toons for 2 people, we did baium with 1 pt we did valakas with 1 pt, we seldomly use more than 1-2 pt at the same time, and for farming pve content there is not such 18 man PT limit, what is that IF, that you are refereing to? in any case IF this change is made, what are the items you say we can't have? keep in mind i am talking about ME, my personal experience all that i have i have obtained using less than the amount you speak, how would you solve this then? you that are the one asking to REMOVE items previously obtained in order to change a rule, there are some that not even come close to that rule how will you propose to do it? because you like to talk and opose and give your oppinion, i dont see you saying something that may help the GM make the correct decision, i also dont want this to be a crappy server that is gonna last 2 months, i like it here, hence i try to give feedback suggest changes that i beleive will benefit the entire server, this suggestion i made is not because my clan lost 1 or 2 AQ, and lost a flag to your clan, we been making it happen with 2 PT for the entire clan, if we had 18 toons per human we at least be 100 chars, but we dont have time nor we do think we need that much to play and have fun, if we need to we will do not 18 per human but will grow larger, i will wait for your solution to the problem
P.S. I do understand that there are people abusing the limit of 18, that is why i suggested to reduce it to 9 in the first place not because i am "losing" . . .
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45 minutes ago, Haranguetan said:
I'm hoping this sensationalist spirit in aftermath of a single castle siege has some time to settle down before major changes are made. This looks like a close vote. is it gonna take a two thirds vote to make a fundamental change to the server?
In my Opinion this vote is just simbolic, so the GM can take a look at the big picture i dont even know if this is going to make a diference to the rules, and honestly i just wanted to express my opinion instead of complaining in clan chat or ally chat tha i think its stupid to have more thatn 1 pt in assist to 1 toon, cuz to mee the game does not feel the same, and maybe its because its my first BOT server and my first slow server in a while, i dont really know or maybe i was specting to fell like the old days.
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1 hour ago, Jdub said:
Sorry you're not having fun. I really wish I could help you out here but that would kinda be dumb on my part. Don't quit, maybe take some advice and change your tactics.
To put your mind at ease.
I've never pvp'd with more than 1 group since the start of the server. Less QA with 2.
2nd, I've never pk'd a new player. In fact, I've only helped them get going. Who pk's the new guy with a 30 toons?
Some advice - Maybe instead of assuming it's 2 dudes playing 60, petitioning the GM, and trying to get the rules changed for everyone, you should change something you're doing to get the desired result?
Have a blessed day.
P.S. I could play 100. Lets not go there, I dont have that kind of time.
I am Having Fun, you are wrong to the fact that you are assuming i am not preparing to a GM decision not in my favor, i have an opinion and i am in my rigth to express it, i made a sugestion and the GM itself made a poll, and i made the suggestion because i am having fun i met new people and i like playing with them so listen to your own advice and dont go assuming, so if you or your clan or whoever does not share the the same opinion or close to it, Vote NO, i'm not able in any way or have the power to change a rule i made a suggestion that i believe that will balance the server, not because i lost a flag or AQ, ive acomplish more than a lot of people in this server playing only 1 char + a healer + my brother, i dont need 18 toons, if this is not changed the ill adjust, or if i dont like it i will quit the server and that's that. and like you i dont have time to level 18 toons. and for you to know PK is a part of the game and a BIG part of it, so dont be surprised about people killing low lvl, or botting, or anyone just going around all maps looking to kill you or anyone that flags just for fun.
good day to you to.
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3 hours ago, Erebus said:
You are losing it . . . Why I should delete anything that I obtained with more than 1 char? I am not the one asking to change the rule, those who are asking for it should start with their gains of multiboxing.
I won't even bother answering to your personal insults ofc, its boring and you are not worth it . . .
What ever bro you do you
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26 minutes ago, Geo said:
Racer dont be mad cause you are losing. This is the truth and really dont speak for parties abuse cause your side doing it all the time and especially in AQ.
It's simple you cant do that even with 3pts or 1 vs 1 enjoy this game and stop crying for everything!.
Cheers guys
Im not losing bro, cast your vote and wait for the GM to make a decision, i dont need 20 toons to make stuff happen ....
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8 minutes ago, Erebus said:
You asking me what I already said? Hmm reading skills 110% . . .
Ofc I WOULD agree with 1 char/person if server didn't offer so much since day one to all players cause of multiboxing. So cut the crap and give all your "precious" belongings cause they are not obtained by playing 1 char and then ask for rules changes about it.
Till you ALL do that plz GET REAL AND STFU about it !!!
Starting with you, go ahead and delete your account and start over once you do it ill do it 1 man bot to pvp epic etc etc
Not reading skills, your answering power is limited by the size of your brain, once you do what you are asking me to do i will do it and gladly start again, so dont speak nonsense if you are not gonna step up to it, Vote and wat for GM´s decision, your opinion is yours if you dont like the change vote no, there is another place in the forum to speak shit, this is the suggestion channel, if you dont have anything good to add, dont bother to come here and speak what ever farts come out of your mind, Vote and wait for the GM decision, dont bother to ask anyone to give up all items and chard because we are not talking about giving or taking anything but i guess you are not able to understand a full sentence.
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12 hours ago, JustKidding said:
I can probably run around 6 parties on my PC if I would want to, but it still doesn't mean I should bring 6 parties for PVP. @Echoes, it's good you mentioned capabilities of ones' PC. Not everyone can afford an extremely powerful PC, and they might be able to run 1 CP max with a mix of adrenaline + oog bot like l2project. Why should people without a super computer be at such a big disadvantage? The point of allowing botting in the first place is to allow people who don't have as much time to spend on constantly playing, to have a chance against those who can spend more time in the game. But then, someone who can spend more time in game, can also spend more time on managing more bots, and gets much bigger advantage. Considering all of this, 1 CP max per person on most important events sounds like a good balance option.
I Agree i have 1 good pc to run 20 clients and a smal laptop that runs 3 clients, i just runs 2 and 2 to play pvp (I play with my brother in the same house), and i have 3 or 4 that are always farming that dont interact with anyone, to me is the most efficient way.
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9 hours ago, Scrapyard said:
This vote will come down along Clan lines.
If you're loosing the war right now you will vote to limit. If you're winning the war then you vote to keep two parties.
I watched as people talked a big game and PK'd people like crazy. Which made the server very difficult for many to level.
IF this poll indicates anything it is that you outnumber Redarrows in live players and if you get organized, work hard, and pick fights you can win then you'll get much much stronger and turn the balance later.
I think changing the rule/s now is very unwise.
Have you encounter a server were there is no pk? there is even one name "PKlibre" or free Pk if you dont know spanish, and that toon no longer plays it was created just to PK, and if you do the math the top PK player killed only 3 people acording to the rules, and if you have your party on protect you outlive the healer and then kill one by one so its the same, its part of the game to hinder your opponents exp more in a BOT server were you go to work and leave your chars while you work.
Again VOTE and wait for Gm´s Decision
To me unwise is to wait untlyl the active paying players grow annoyed of 2 PT per human player or more in some cases.
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17 hours ago, Haranguetan said:
I got into this server to max on this concept. I was sizing up a 20 toon assault team. I was disappointed to read the Limit at 18. Id have 40 if I could. I set up strategies and backup configurations for when my spear-point is killed. I think its fine and fun at 18. I feel like a tiny man inside a giant, 20 armed articulated colossus, and i love it. Dont Chang on me now.
I respect your oppinion and effort, this is my opinion only, if you feel good with doing things alone with 300 toons you do you! but to me the fun is meeting people and playing with them, not having 40 toons to feel BIG!
Vote and wait for Gm´s Decision.
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11 hours ago, Erebus said:
I can agree with even 1 char / person in sieges/tw/epics BUT those who wanna reduce the 18 limit and asking/voting for it MUST return ALL their epics/castles that were obtained by using "or their allies using" more than 1 char / person !!!!!
P.S. Didn't mention returning tw flags back for OBVIOUS reasons . . .
OK lets go only 1 character per person in epics/siege/pvp , i will return my guild castle gladly to see that happen, are you able to do the same? would you figth a castle siege with 1 character?
Again this is my opinion VOTE and wait the GM´s decision on this matter.
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7 hours ago, Jdub said:
TO ADD....
Most of these players leveled 3 characters -> 1 party at the start. Some of us leveled 2-4 parties, the result is just this. Took the people with more bots longer to get stronger, while the small group of higher level players had a better chance early on.
Why do we need new rules? It was a pain in the ass to level so many characters and now you want to make it so the people who did cannot use them? bahhh..
I disagree with a change to this rule, at this point.
To the yes voters - if you're not winning maybe adjust your strategy? Level different/more characters? Try new settings? The server isn't going anywhere - plenty of time.
I understand it took you time and effort Vote NO and wait for the GM decision, and the server will go offline if only 3 guys with 60 toons i guarantee it! so if you want to keep playing for more than 2 months think about it, because you wont get new players to a 60 toon party, but that is your opinion and i respect it . and if you leveled 4 parties i think you are using more than allowed then, and that is the reason i think 1 PT is enough keeps it balanced and fun, as you say with 1 pt you play your strategy you change between main assists depending on your situation, having all posible characters to me is not fun.
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14 hours ago, Echoes said:
Because you lose it doesn't meen its unfair. Maybe its less fun as you say but i dont think the winners believe the same. And i don't think every time you lose a poll should be made. The problem is that you can't handle 2 parties , is it that your PC can't handle 2 pts?
Cause the reason for losing or winning is not the number of pts but what gear they carry. Bring me 20 pts per IP with carmian.
If your enemy can gear up his whole grp while you have managed to gear 1 chars for expample that meens he is better.
And what should a guy with 2 parties full vesper should do now? Delete his accounts?
I am not losing, because you had to make 30 toons to kill our PT.
I can run 20 toons on my PC I Choose not to i dont have time to farm for 20 toons and log them all if i can farm with 3, im full 84 +6 in all my active players (3) are you? im working on more in case the limit is not changed, with 3 ppl and about 2 PT we can beat much of "any other parties" but we cant beat 90 toons with only 10, i dont see the point of having 17 toons assisting 1 "My opinion" , you can think what ever you like i dont really care dont even know who you are i play for fun and to meet people not to feel im superior cuz i can log 18 toons and kill 3, and i am speaking more for future players than me, if the rule is not changed i will still make only 1 pt for miself maybe a bit more, im not but hurt i am not complaining to the people who made 300 accounts to kill my half party, i am just stating my opinion, and asking to all of you to give yours, i dont care about any other thing so please say YES or NO, so the GM can think about this and give a statement, to the people that is taking the post seriously i appreciated to whose flaming i appreciated also, at the end of the day you will be left alone with 300 toons to play by yourself if that is what you like good for you i dont discriminate but for me i like to play myself, i came to this server because the bot is allowed and i dont have time like before to play 8 hours a day, not to make 30 toons to beat my enemy, again i appreciate your good and bad comments mediocre people will always be like that so i dont worry to much quality will always be better than quantity, unless we are talking about $ bills!
Peace out!
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1 minute ago, zuicideable said:
The change apply only for PVP events?
Yes what i am proposing is that for pvp event/siege/epics/fortress/TW we use maximum 1 pt for person, for anyother farming or pve or anything i dont mind you can have as many toons as you like
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11 minutes ago, Mantosh said:
Thanks for suggestion. I understand how it is hard to counter ~10-12 damage dealers focusing one character at a time.
I took the liberty to add a poll to your suggestion.
Thanks!
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Hi,
I hope you are fine, this is not a rant, not a QQ just my opinion.
2 full party for pvp/epic/siege/important stuff, is too much, for normal rb, farming power level, or what ever i dont really care if you have 200 toons, now for competitive stuff i feel like 18 characters is to much, and breaks the fun of the game, i think we all agree that we are playing to have fun, compete against other people, but fairly no fun in being one shot by 18 different characters, that are assisting 1 human, I personally play only my Main and a healer backing up maybe 2 or 3 more, but nothing more than that, i understand that this rule is old and was agreed by GM's before the server started, but now having it live and seeing how is affecting the gameplay i think we should reconsider reducing the number of parties to 1 per human, so we can balance the pvp and still can have fun, i understand that there are people that built 2 parties already and that maybe its unfair to them i agree to that, but still you can use your parties for all you want to do, just dont go to siege/pvp/epic with all of them xD, i am preparing more toons myself to try and compete so i can pvp, but not making more than a 6 man pt, for pvp i think that is more efficient, i will only like for you guys to give your opinions and for GM's to consider all posibilities, keep in mind that this is a server killing feature, no new person will ever want to go against 18 80+ characters in a pvp, or to fight a castle/fortress, to me 18 characters per human is too much.
Best Regards.
RacerX / WR / FightClub Clan
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2 Parties per Human is too Much
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Have i Ever pointed a finger on this Forum or ingame? have a said "this person has X amount of characters" , my suggestion does not discriminates, it is a rule for all wanting to pvp with more than 9 toons, i feel that with 9 toons for each person is more than enough to get pvp content done with no problem, we did baium, antaras, valakas with 2 PT or less, and for PVE content i dont really mind if you have 50 toons doing rb or power leveling you or farming for you, this suggestion is for pvp content! you can vote and think what you like but dont come in to the post speaking non sense, if you dont have nothing to hide no need to worry or loose